This is a recorded dialog between Shaila Catherine and John Kelly. Shaila is a Dharma Teacher in San Jose, California who leads local and online sutta study courses; John Kelly is a Pali Scholar in Australia. John assisted Bhikkhu Bodhi on the production of the English translation of the Numerical Discourses. Shaila and John share their impressions and insights regarding of this ancient text, highlighting the practical relevance of these teachings for contemporary lay people.